Monoprice MP-T65RT Tower Home Theater Speakers with Ribbon Tweeter (Pair)
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Do these come with wires Or do I purchase separately?
A shopper
on Feb 22, 2021
BEST ANSWER: You would have to purchase wires separately, they do not come with the speakers.
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- Tonya H on Feb 22, 2021
- Purchased on Jul 4, 2020
BEST ANSWER: You would have to purchase wires separately, they do not come with the speakers.
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- Tonya H on Feb 22, 2021
- Purchased on Jul 4, 2020
Wires are not included, you will have to purchase separately.
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- Rodney H on Feb 22, 2021
- Purchased on Jul 6, 2020
No wiring provided,
Must be purchased separately
Must be purchased separately
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- Alex C on Feb 22, 2021
- Purchased on Jun 28, 2020
You will need to provide your own wiring.
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- Samuel G on Feb 22, 2021
- Purchased on Feb 27, 2020
Wire must be purchased separately.
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- Mark F on Feb 22, 2021
- Purchased on Aug 4, 2020
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I want to replace my original TV speakers. Will I need an external amplifier for these?
A shopper
on Aug 30, 2019
BEST ANSWER: Yes. A good choice would be SMSL SA-36A Pro. Because it's only 20 watts per channel. The tweeters on these can blow up if driven with too much power. They can get relatively loud with this amp. But be careful of blasting the volume on these. Get a cable that goes from a headphone jack to RCA cables to hook up to the amp from the TV. Set the amp to about half volume and then adjust volume from the TV. I would also recommend little stands of some kind as these are very short towers, like little footstools which is what I use. I have quite a lot of speakers and I really like these, even against some much more expensive ones I own. I've only used them for music though, but I think they should be fine for TV sound.
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- Jeremy Dowdy E on Aug 30, 2019
- Purchased on Jun 21, 2019
BEST ANSWER: Yes. A good choice would be SMSL SA-36A Pro. Because it's only 20 watts per channel. The tweeters on these can blow up if driven with too much power. They can get relatively loud with this amp. But be careful of blasting the volume on these. Get a cable that goes from a headphone jack to RCA cables to hook up to the amp from the TV. Set the amp to about half volume and then adjust volume from the TV. I would also recommend little stands of some kind as these are very short towers, like little footstools which is what I use. I have quite a lot of speakers and I really like these, even against some much more expensive ones I own. I've only used them for music though, but I think they should be fine for TV sound.
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- Jeremy Dowdy E on Aug 30, 2019
- Purchased on Jun 21, 2019
You can use a gefen digital to analog converter.But an optical cable which goes into the tv and into the converter and from there you have to add rca cables to splice with some speaker cable (16-4),and that will convert the analog signal from the speakers into a digital signal to the tv.You will have to change audio settings from your tv to output from extrerbal speakers.
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- nelson o on Aug 30, 2019
- Purchased on Mar 10, 2019
Yes, you will need amplification to use these speakers with any sound source. If you don't want to use an amplifier, look for speakers that say "powered", and that is what you will need. I added a pair of Monoprice bookshelf speakers to this message that are powered and have great sound. (Monoprice DT-4BT)
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- Janet S on Aug 30, 2019
- Purchased on Aug 12, 2019
Yes, the TV will most likely need a external amp to drive these. I use an smsl sa50 ordered on amazon and it works great. It only has 2 channel input so you would need a 2 channel to aux cable to hook it to your TV if a aux is all your TV has.
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- Nicholas E on Aug 30, 2019
- Purchased on May 29, 2019
Yes. If you have an amplified signal output on your TV for external speakers, you are all set. Otherwise, you need to feed the signal through an external amp first.
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- James C on Aug 30, 2019
- Purchased on Apr 19, 2019
Yes I don't believe the TV's output is enuff to drive these speakers.
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- Al S on Aug 30, 2019
- Purchased on Aug 2, 2019
yes, you need an amp. these are not powered speakers.
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- Ross W on Aug 30, 2019
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Can these be placed against a wall? Or is there a minimum distance from the wall?
Russ N
on Nov 24, 2019
BEST ANSWER: It is like putting salt in soup. To some degree it is personal taste. then the experts will tell you how important the size and shape of the listening space are. What is in the space can make a big difference.
There are no easy answers to your question. Nothing beats setting things up and listening to it yourself.
I find that I am affected too greatly by reviews of audio gear. I can be listening to speakers while I read about them and they can sound better or worse depending on what I am reading.
When you get lost in the music and stop worring about how things are set up, you will be getting somewhere.
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Carl
There are no easy answers to your question. Nothing beats setting things up and listening to it yourself.
I find that I am affected too greatly by reviews of audio gear. I can be listening to speakers while I read about them and they can sound better or worse depending on what I am reading.
When you get lost in the music and stop worring about how things are set up, you will be getting somewhere.
Happy listening
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- CARL R on Nov 25, 2019
- Purchased on Feb 26, 2019
BEST ANSWER: It is like putting salt in soup. To some degree it is personal taste. then the experts will tell you how important the size and shape of the listening space are. What is in the space can make a big difference.
There are no easy answers to your question. Nothing beats setting things up and listening to it yourself.
I find that I am affected too greatly by reviews of audio gear. I can be listening to speakers while I read about them and they can sound better or worse depending on what I am reading.
When you get lost in the music and stop worring about how things are set up, you will be getting somewhere.
Happy listening
Carl
There are no easy answers to your question. Nothing beats setting things up and listening to it yourself.
I find that I am affected too greatly by reviews of audio gear. I can be listening to speakers while I read about them and they can sound better or worse depending on what I am reading.
When you get lost in the music and stop worring about how things are set up, you will be getting somewhere.
Happy listening
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- CARL R on Nov 25, 2019
- Purchased on Feb 26, 2019
It should not matter if it's up against a wall, since the port is front firing. I've never had mine up against a wall, despite trying them in multiple locations and placements. They've not got too heavy of bass, putting them up against a wall might make them more boomy is all. These have a capacitor in them that blocks out the bass below 50Hz as well. So I don't think they'll get too crazy when close to a wall. You should put them on little stands of some kind though. They're way to short for the tweeter to be ear level. I'm planning on getting a pair of subwoofers to put under mine.
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- Jeremy Dowdy E on Nov 25, 2019
- Purchased on Jun 21, 2019
They are front-ported so there will be no appreciable acoustic interaction with a wall immediately behind them - you'll only really need enough clearance for the wire
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- Shane W on Jan 14, 2020
- Purchased on Jan 7, 2020
Speakers should never be placed against a wall. Even just an inch away would work fine. Hope this helped!
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- james h on Nov 25, 2019
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Is the MP-T65RT sturdy enough to be used as speaker stands for bookshelf speakers?
A shopper
on Mar 27, 2020
You want to use tower speakers as stands for other speakers? These are MDF cabinets so they'd hold a good bit of weight (enough for any bookshelf speaker I know) but you might want to take a look at the overall height: they're not tall enough to get bookshelf speakers from the floor to even sitting ear level...and generally speaking (no pun intended) you don't want your speakers in contact with anything that will resonate; these are relatively thin MDF and have drivers of their own so you're likely to get some sympathetic vibration. I would opt for something heavier and/or more solid, personally.
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- Shane W on Mar 27, 2020
- Purchased on Jan 7, 2020
Definitely. I own these and while light weight the cabinets are sturdy.
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- Samuel G on Mar 27, 2020
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What is RMS ohms resistance ?
A shopper
on Dec 9, 2020
BEST ANSWER: FULL spec sheet is right on there website https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=35124&turntoqid=T0QMY0kZYQ&turntosuid=SUYGbkgfYg&sourceId=1&turntoQuestionId=5489163&turntoEmailType=question&iqrlId=88414123&turntosku=35124&turntoflow=answer&cl=res&utm_source=email_turnto_question&utm_medium=email&utm_content=email_turnto_question&utm_campaign=email_turnto_question#turntodone
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- Cary D on Dec 9, 2020
- Purchased on Feb 12, 2020
BEST ANSWER: FULL spec sheet is right on there website https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=35124&turntoqid=T0QMY0kZYQ&turntosuid=SUYGbkgfYg&sourceId=1&turntoQuestionId=5489163&turntoEmailType=question&iqrlId=88414123&turntosku=35124&turntoflow=answer&cl=res&utm_source=email_turnto_question&utm_medium=email&utm_content=email_turnto_question&utm_campaign=email_turnto_question#turntodone
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- Cary D on Dec 9, 2020
- Purchased on Feb 12, 2020
RMS (Root Mean Square) has to do with the power needed to drive a speaker and ohms is the Standard unit of measure for electrical resistance. I would look for websites or YouTube videos to get more in-depth understanding
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- Donnie P on Dec 9, 2020
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I heard these speakers don't have a crossover. Is this true?
A shopper
on Feb 19, 2019
BEST ANSWER: The question has been answered elsewhere now but these don't have a traditional crossover - basically just a high pass for the tweeters (and I assume the 6.5s don't make enough HF to interfere much). It works surprisingly well for such a relatively simple design; they sound great
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- Shane W on Jan 14, 2020
- Purchased on Jan 7, 2020
BEST ANSWER: The question has been answered elsewhere now but these don't have a traditional crossover - basically just a high pass for the tweeters (and I assume the 6.5s don't make enough HF to interfere much). It works surprisingly well for such a relatively simple design; they sound great
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- Shane W on Jan 14, 2020
- Purchased on Jan 7, 2020
All speakers have a crossover, if not, then the bass is not filtered out of the tweeter and the highs are not filtered out of the woofer and the sound would be worsened.
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- Gabriel H on Feb 19, 2019
"All speakers have a crossover"
That is false. There's a good chance these don't. The staff seems to be dodging this question.
That is false. There's a good chance these don't. The staff seems to be dodging this question.
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- New User U on Feb 20, 2019
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Staff, are you ignoring the question about a crossover because there isn't a crossover, or are you trying to find what frequency it is set at?
New User U
on Feb 20, 2019
BEST ANSWER: There isn't a traditional say linkwitz-riley 4th order crossover in here, nor could there be at this price point. There is a condenser and resistor that function as the crossover in this speaker.
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- New User U Staff on Feb 20, 2019
Thank you!
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- New User U on Feb 20, 2019
BEST ANSWER: There isn't a traditional say linkwitz-riley 4th order crossover in here, nor could there be at this price point. There is a condenser and resistor that function as the crossover in this speaker.
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- New User U Staff on Feb 20, 2019
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- New User U on Feb 20, 2019
So in other words it's a first order high pass filter for the tweeter just like the Dayton T652 Air. This also means you could probably improve the
performance of these by adding a full second order Linkwitz-Riley crossover or splitting the input and using an active crossover. But at this
price point they would make a nice Dolby 5.1 system with the center channel and possibly a decent 10 inch sub with something like an
Onkyo receiver. Far better than most consumer equipment on the market. Thanks, Monoprice, for introducing this option.
performance of these by adding a full second order Linkwitz-Riley crossover or splitting the input and using an active crossover. But at this
price point they would make a nice Dolby 5.1 system with the center channel and possibly a decent 10 inch sub with something like an
Onkyo receiver. Far better than most consumer equipment on the market. Thanks, Monoprice, for introducing this option.
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- New User U on Feb 21, 2019
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I'm interested in these for my Living room. I just installed a pair of the 8 inch ceiling speakers above the couch, and am looking at these, along with a center speaker, at my TV. I'm wondering- why are these 6 ohms though? Isn't 8 standard these days? I already have a speaker selector box to use, which these will need to go thru and it wants me to tell it if speakers are 4 or 8 ohm. Please advise.
New User U
on Mar 22, 2019
No clue. This is a ? For mono price tech.
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- James I on Mar 22, 2019
- Purchased on Feb 26, 2019
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Are the tweeters on these true ribbon tweeters (aluminum ribbon) or planar?
A shopper
on Jun 6, 2019
BEST ANSWER: They look to be I haven't taken them apart yet. I am impressed with the sound for the cost like them better than the Polk t50 I tried. For media they are hard to beat for the price. For music they do pretty good.
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- Aaron S on Jun 6, 2019
- Purchased on Mar 15, 2019
BEST ANSWER: They look to be I haven't taken them apart yet. I am impressed with the sound for the cost like them better than the Polk t50 I tried. For media they are hard to beat for the price. For music they do pretty good.
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- Aaron S on Jun 6, 2019
- Purchased on Mar 15, 2019
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can your 10 watt tube amp power these speakers? or do i need to use the 50 watt hybrid?
Marc J
on Mar 22, 2020
Not very well as the speaker is not that sensitive.
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- Charles H on Mar 22, 2020
- Purchased on Nov 28, 2019
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What is the 'break-in period' for this pair of speakers?
Matthew T
on Jun 14, 2020
BEST ANSWER: Break in is roughly 10-15 hours, but the sound wont change dramatically.
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- New User U Staff on Jun 15, 2020
BEST ANSWER: Break in is roughly 10-15 hours, but the sound wont change dramatically.
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- New User U Staff on Jun 15, 2020
They've sounded great since I hooked them up. But they really seem to be coming into their own after a few hours of playing. A surprising amount of bass.
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- Konstantin D on Jun 14, 2020
- Purchased on Jun 3, 2020
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What are the overall dimensions, driver sizes and power handling?
A shopper
on Feb 13, 2019
BEST ANSWER: Each woofer is 6.5", power handling is 60W, and dimensions are 30" H, 9.6" D, 7.6" W.
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- New User U Staff on Feb 13, 2019
BEST ANSWER: Each woofer is 6.5", power handling is 60W, and dimensions are 30" H, 9.6" D, 7.6" W.
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will there be any pertinent info posted on these? power handling? driver sizes? anything?
A shopper
on Feb 13, 2019
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Are these just a re-arranged Dayton T652 Air?
A shopper
on Feb 14, 2019
BEST ANSWER: No. Completely different design and driver. There are acoustic advantages to this driver arrangement.
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- New User U Staff on Feb 15, 2019
BEST ANSWER: No. Completely different design and driver. There are acoustic advantages to this driver arrangement.
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Are these just a Dayton T652-Air, but re-arranged?
New User U
on Feb 14, 2019
BEST ANSWER: No. Completely different design and driver. There are acoustic advantages to this driver arrangement.
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- New User U Staff on Feb 15, 2019
BEST ANSWER: No. Completely different design and driver. There are acoustic advantages to this driver arrangement.
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What is weight per speaker? Binding posts?
A shopper
on Feb 16, 2019
BEST ANSWER: Spring clips. Each speaker weighs roughly 16lbs.
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- New User U Staff on Feb 19, 2019
BEST ANSWER: Spring clips. Each speaker weighs roughly 16lbs.
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Um if it has two woofers and one ribon tweeter wheres the mid-range speaker ?
A shopper
on Feb 19, 2019
BEST ANSWER: One or both of the woofers are mid-bass drivers. A mid-bass driver handles both bass and midrange sounds.
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- Gabriel H on Feb 19, 2019
BEST ANSWER: One or both of the woofers are mid-bass drivers. A mid-bass driver handles both bass and midrange sounds.
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- Gabriel H on Feb 19, 2019
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Good afternoon.Have you tried these speakers with your 50w tube amp?How was the sound quality if so?
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A shopper
on Feb 22, 2019
BEST ANSWER: Yes, we tested the speakers with this amplifier. They sound great together as the towers are an easy load to drive.
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- New User U Staff on Feb 22, 2019
BEST ANSWER: Yes, we tested the speakers with this amplifier. They sound great together as the towers are an easy load to drive.
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Greetings!Just wondering if you've played these speakers through your 50 w tube amp? What was sound we if so?
New User U
on Feb 22, 2019
BEST ANSWER: Yes, we tested the speakers with this amplifier. They sound great together as the towers are an easy load to drive.
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- New User U Staff on Feb 22, 2019
Ok thanks!
Was looking at these for home audio purposes and not home theater.Just looking for something to listen to tunes...wether vinyl or disk.
Thanks for the quick reply👍
Was looking at these for home audio purposes and not home theater.Just looking for something to listen to tunes...wether vinyl or disk.
Thanks for the quick reply👍
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- New User U on Feb 22, 2019
BEST ANSWER: Yes, we tested the speakers with this amplifier. They sound great together as the towers are an easy load to drive.
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- New User U Staff on Feb 22, 2019
Ok thanks!
Was looking at these for home audio purposes and not home theater.Just looking for something to listen to tunes...wether vinyl or disk.
Thanks for the quick reply👍
Was looking at these for home audio purposes and not home theater.Just looking for something to listen to tunes...wether vinyl or disk.
Thanks for the quick reply👍
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- New User U on Feb 22, 2019
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I have a Realistic vintage receiver sta-1200 120watts per channel could use this speaker? Thank you
A shopper
on Feb 23, 2019
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Can I use these as front left and right speakers with the Monoprice 5.1 home theater system to make it a 7.1 system?
Zachary C
on Feb 28, 2019
BEST ANSWER: You could, but it wouldn't be a perfect timbre match. If your receiver/processor has an auto-eq system, it would negate some of the timbre mis-match.
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- New User U Staff on Feb 28, 2019
BEST ANSWER: You could, but it wouldn't be a perfect timbre match. If your receiver/processor has an auto-eq system, it would negate some of the timbre mis-match.
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This is for a pair? A set of two for $139? Seems like a good deal!
A shopper
on Apr 3, 2019
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How do these compare to the MP-65RT bookshelf speakers?
A shopper
on Apr 25, 2019
BEST ANSWER: Same drivers as the bookshelf, so they will match from a sonic perspective. The towers play with deeper bass.
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- New User U Staff on Apr 25, 2019
BEST ANSWER: Same drivers as the bookshelf, so they will match from a sonic perspective. The towers play with deeper bass.
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Why do your specs lack some real information?
Robert G
on Jan 2, 2020
BEST ANSWER: These are 6 ohms, the crossover is about 3000 Hz, they are the same exact size as the Dayton towers. They don't have a "real" crossover, just a capacitor and resistor on the tweeter also capacitors on the midbass drivers which block out frequencies below 50 Hz. I don't know the sensitivity on these. They are budget speakers, what more do you want? I think they are a ton better than the Dayton equivalent. I put mine on little stands to raise up tweeter to ear level and added a sub, it sounds really dang good to me. I like them better than more expensive stuff I've got lying around. I even considered flipping them upside down and putting them on my desk. Try to ask a more specific question next time, thanks...
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- Jeremy Dowdy E on Jan 2, 2020
- Purchased on Jun 21, 2019
BEST ANSWER: These are 6 ohms, the crossover is about 3000 Hz, they are the same exact size as the Dayton towers. They don't have a "real" crossover, just a capacitor and resistor on the tweeter also capacitors on the midbass drivers which block out frequencies below 50 Hz. I don't know the sensitivity on these. They are budget speakers, what more do you want? I think they are a ton better than the Dayton equivalent. I put mine on little stands to raise up tweeter to ear level and added a sub, it sounds really dang good to me. I like them better than more expensive stuff I've got lying around. I even considered flipping them upside down and putting them on my desk. Try to ask a more specific question next time, thanks...
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How can I connect it to the tv?
A shopper
on Jun 22, 2020
BEST ANSWER: you need to connect output audio of tv to amplifier them to speakers tv has either digital output optical or coaxial output or headphone output the need to be connect to amplifier then speakers to amplifier. No amplifier these wont work for you
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- Richard C on Jun 22, 2020
- Purchased on Jun 10, 2020
BEST ANSWER: you need to connect output audio of tv to amplifier them to speakers tv has either digital output optical or coaxial output or headphone output the need to be connect to amplifier then speakers to amplifier. No amplifier these wont work for you
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Can you use these with a yamaha RX385 Receiver?
A shopper
on Jul 23, 2020
BEST ANSWER: Yes, they should work fine with that receiver.
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- New User U Staff on Jul 24, 2020
BEST ANSWER: Yes, they should work fine with that receiver.
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What is the approximate max SPL (in dB) produced by one of these speakers, given a powerful amplifier?
A shopper
on Oct 22, 2020
BEST ANSWER: Depends on the size of room, amplification, and source.
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BEST ANSWER: Depends on the size of room, amplification, and source.
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But you know what, for the price, these are very good speakers.
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Bass response is decent, treble response is decent. Mid range is a bit muddy... but all in all, they are worth it.
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Paired with the tube amp Monoprice offers and a decent turntable, you can enjoy some music quite well.
Bass response is decent, treble response is decent. Mid range is a bit muddy... but all in all, they are worth it.
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Rated 5 out of 5
Good Sound Cheap Price
Used as front speakers for 7.1 surround receiver A+
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Rated 5 out of 5
Inexpensive but great sounding speaker for a budget price
Wide sound field with a well balanced low and high end.Even though these are tower speakers they would benefit by being placed on speaker stands at least 12"to 18" off the floor.A great value for their performance
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Rated 5 out of 5
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`` these speakers are great everything they said they are have great sound great base great sound over my surround sound and for music I bought 2 sets mounted on the wall work great would absolutely my views again and highly recommend them
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Rated 5 out of 5
Very enjoyable sounding speaker with potential to be awesome
Very nice sounding speaker for the price. Yes, it is built reflective of the price with minimal crossover, spring connectors, low cost drivers, and a live vinyl wrapped cabinet. Was not expecting much, but the sound was surprisingly enjoyable to listen to.
This is really a 2 1/2 way speaker. The lower woofer is bypassed by a large non-polar electrolytic, so it is only working at lower frequencies. The upper woofer is playing full range. The tweeter does appear to be a planar and has a simple xo of a resistor and capacitor.
For the hobbyist, this speaker can make for a fun project. You can easily improve the sound by dampening the cabinet and making it a true 2 way MTM with a 2nd or 3rd order xo. It will also benefit from stands since it is pretty short.
Overall, out of the box, these are awesome for the price. The black box will not win any designer awards, but it is very enjoyable sounding.
This is really a 2 1/2 way speaker. The lower woofer is bypassed by a large non-polar electrolytic, so it is only working at lower frequencies. The upper woofer is playing full range. The tweeter does appear to be a planar and has a simple xo of a resistor and capacitor.
For the hobbyist, this speaker can make for a fun project. You can easily improve the sound by dampening the cabinet and making it a true 2 way MTM with a 2nd or 3rd order xo. It will also benefit from stands since it is pretty short.
Overall, out of the box, these are awesome for the price. The black box will not win any designer awards, but it is very enjoyable sounding.
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