these are great- thank Chuck for finding them (not that thicker wouldn't have worked for this need, but these are better)
Not done yet, but Chuck moved switches into where the 1u horizontal wire managers were, and then simple cabled straight into the LAN ports. This involves much less cabling than the old 'horizontal-to-vertical-to-horizontal-and-In' approach. Probably cant repatch around as easily but why should we need too and could always move vLan ports around to the cable if needed
Not done but Chuck moved switches inbetween patch panels, and cabled straight into the LAN ports.