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Titan Series Tilt TV Wall Mount Bracket - For TVs 30in to 63in, Max Weight 165lbs, VESA Patterns Up to 750x450, UL Cert...
1-port 2-piece Inset Wall Plate with 4in Built-in Flexible High Speed HDMI Cable With Ethernet, White
HDMI Over Cat5e / Cat6 Extender Wall Plate (Pair) with Built-In Backward IR Channel, Single Port (1P), White
Questions and Answers
The final setup that worked is using a Comcast IR extender on the receiver side and a 3.5mm Stereo Plug/Plug M/M Cable product #644 https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=644 on the sender side that plugs directly into the cable box.
When I saw this new product come out, I ordered two and received them and installed them yesterday.
I wish it had some sort of minor instruction manual (read here to be sure to switch both HDMI adapters to IR not CEC (I think it's CEC? and what is CEC even used for??).
The Rx and Tx cables are clearly labeled and even have an arrow showing which direction IR signal is going (Rx has arrow pointing in towards cable and Tx has arrows pointing from cable towards IR LED). There is also an IN/OUT labeled on HDMI ports but I wasn't sure what this meant.
I initially installed the HDMI adapter at the wall plate at the TV end and then connected HDMI going to the TV into the adapter there but product didn't work. I then moved the HDMI adapter and plugged it into HDMI input on TV and plugged the HDMI cable coming up from the wall plate into it and it worked fine (makes sense when I thought about it - HDMI aren't crossover cables).
In the basement I plugged the HDMI adapter into the HDMI cable coming through the wall and then the adapter into the port adapter already installed.
Worked awesome! With the RF IR extender you would sometimes get some repetition errors (due to noise) or would have to push buttons a couple times for a response - with these HDMI adapters it was crisp response, single push every time!
I repeated the installation in the upstairs bedroom (40' HDMI cable run) and I initially had some issues (wouldn't work everytime). I had a 10-15' larger gauge (smaller wire) HDMI cable going from wall port to TV. I shortened the HDMI cable and decreased the gauge (thicker wire) going to the TV and it works great as well. I suspect there may be a total connector/HDMI cable length that these may work over (loss limit) but I successfully ran it with about 50 total feet of HDMI cable and at least 6 total connections in between with 100% success and I suspect this would be sufficient for almost everyone.
With the TV pivot-mount upstairs, the TV is very close to the wall and the addition of the HDMI adapter and the HDMI cable being plugged into it has the HDMI cable at a very sharp bend at wall (barely got it to fit). I will probably get a port saver adapter to fix this though.
The IR Rx and Tx parts are very small and mount easily to the TV (or whatever). Compared to the wireless repeater - no contest. The new ones are miniature in comparison.
The only real "negative" I can see is that I can no longer have just one Tx at the end where I am controlling the devices with multiple Rx throught the house. This is because the signal goes over the HDMI cable and must be decoded at the other end. I'm sure Monoprice could come up with some sort of multi-input-single output adapter for the Tx IR cable, but really, the IR part is so small itself that I simply mounted it right beside the other one. I could probably mount a 3x3 array of the new ones and the surface area would be about the same.
Great product - buying another now :)
PROS: - very small
- no radio frequency noise
- doesn't need a separate AC power supply at either end - draws power from HDMI
CONS: - need to have a transmitter (at IR device you want to control) for every receiver
- have to be careful about possible stresses on HDMI connection where you insert device
- you have to put the adapter in the correct direction (not bi-directional)
- with the IR Rx/Tx coming out at 90 degree angle of adapter, it may not fit on some TVs depending on how recessed the port is and how close the side wall is to HDMI port
- adds another connection (signal loss/degredation) between source and TV
Buy this, stay away from running dedicated IR wires all over the place, you wont be sorry.
PROS: 1) Eliminates the need to run dedicated IR wires all over the house from every room back to the receiver
2) Simple and elegant solution if you already have your home pre-wired for HDMI
3) This device is compatible with the Redmere HDMI long cables sold by Monoprice
4) This device is compatible with the 1X8 HDMI splitter sold by Monoprice
5) No loss of picture or sound quality as these devices utilize unused wires on the ethernet pins of the HDMI cable, IOW the IR signal does NOT share any signal carrying wires in HDMI
6) Gets its power off the HDMI cable
7) IR transmitters and receivers are substantial little rectangular cubes, much better than those little "buttons" you see for IR blasters and receivers. This makes them easy to position and clip or tape into place.
8) IR blasters put out a lot of power to hit all your gear... no need to clear tape individual blasters to each piece of equipment. Just position the blasters in your stereo rack cabinet and close the door.
CONS: This is not really a CON but remember to buy plenty of 8 inch port savers for installing these. Depending upon how your HDMI jacks are situated you might need them and may as well have them already, they're cheap.
My suspicion: this thing needs power on the HDMI circuit. Since the receiver is turned off, there is no power. So you sit pointing the remote at the IR receiver and keep hitting "power on" and nothing happens. Duh, of course.. this unit isn't powered up!
Contact with Monoprice: They were helpful but couldn't figure out that this was the issue. The tech I talked to didn't seem to fully grasp what I was saying (the unit needs power and isn't getting any). He had me try a few things, and considered the possibility it was defective (which it isn't ... every other function works!)
Monoprice had me contact Sony as they suspected the remote was outside the usuable frequency range of this device. No luck Sony said "we don't know what the frequency is of the remote". Thanks Sony! :)
Couldn't find the frequency in any documentation anywhere.
I took a stab at fixing the problem and it WORKED! I bought a "HDMI voltage Inserter". Plugged the unit in, and placed it inline with the HDMI cable at the back of the receiver, in line with the Monoprice unit. I can't remember whether it went:
Receiver - Monoprice unit - inserter unit - HDMI cable going to TV
Receiver - inserter unit - Monoprice unit - HDMI cable going to TV
It does matter which way, because it didin't work until I switched things around. So give it a shot and if no luck, swap the inserter and MP units around.
Since then, everything works perfectly!!!
Hope this is helpful....
PROS: Works great (once you get it working)
CONS: Wouldn't power up my receiver
Because the RedMere says it is directional, I didn't know if it would work but I have had no issues (once I figured out the proper placement of the Tx and Rx components. For others who read the product reviews more than the product manual: The Tx is the one with the arrow pointing away from the wiring and should be aimed at the unit you want to control. The Rx is the one with the arrow pointing in towards the wiring and should be placed where you want to aim the remote. In my mind I had justified the reverse placement without looking at the instructions or the arrows).
It also has no issues with my Comcast remote, so I can sit in the basement and control the cable box upstairs. Lovely!
PROS: Works perfectly with RedMere cable and Comcast remote.
PROS: Very reliable
No visible wires/clean look
CONS: Plug design interferes with other ports on devices
Double sided tape does not hold
No instructions for use over Cat 5/6 extender
The IR connector coming out of the device at a right angle can block adjacent ports.
PROS: Performs well, does all functions as advertised.
CONS: The device on the Tx end must be powered on.
IR Adapters at either end can block adjoining ports.
PROS: Small, Afordable and works great over high end HDMI cables
CONS: A better mounting pad is needed as the one that came with it was not great and was quickly replaced with a high end piece of double-sided tape. A 90 degree version would also help with behind TV mounting.
PROS: Works great right out of the box
Changes channels/guide/etc just as fast as if I were in front of cable box (Motorola QIP7100 2) for Verizon FiOS
CONS: May need right angle connector if TV is mounting to wall (low profile)
They are being used with the following equipment:
5557 4X1 HDMI 1.3b Certified Switcher
3990 High Speed HDMI 1.3a (22AWG) - 25ft
2791 HDMI® Coupler (Female to Female)
3990 High Speed HDMI 1.3a (22AWG) - 25ft
3850 HDMI® Port Saver (Male to Female) - 270 Degree
I've got a Dish network box and a Media PC on the switcher
and the IR Senders after the switch and before the TV
They are working fine through 50Ft of 22AWG HDMI cable which is split into two
25ft Cables connected by a Female-Female connector
The setup is working perfectly.
Make sure to get some 90 degree HDMI adapters if your TV is close to the wall
because these add a few inches perpendicular to the HDMI port
PROS: Easy to setup
Works with no "delay" (very snappy response)
CONS: Needs right angle connectors if your TV is close to the wall
PROS: Extends IR from room to room without pulling any extra cables. Uses an otherwise unused pair in the HDMI cable.
No wall wort needed. Powered via the HDMI cable.
Much better constructed than most wire type IR extenders.
CONS: Side connector for the IR device physically conflicts with the cable in the jack next to it. Especially a problem behind the HDMI splitter. Lucky for me, I had some HDMI right angle adapters on hand. Not pretty behind the splitter, but it works. The 3.5 mm plug should come out below and parallel to the HDMI jack. Or it should be a short cable rather than a hard adapter.
The HDMI "IN" and "OUT" labels are confusing. The male goes into the device, the female is for the cable.