Metal Back Can for 8-inch Ceiling Speaker with Brackets (pair)
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    Size: 8in
    4in 6.5in 8in
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    Metal Back Can for 8-inch Ceiling Speaker with Brackets (pair)

    Adding back cans to your in-ceiling speakers is the easiest and most cost-effective means of improving the quality and volume level of the sound, as well as improving overall installation safety.

    Ordinary bookshelf or floor-standing speakers use carefully designed and crafted enclosures to shape and give body to the sound produced by the drivers. However, in a basic in-ceiling or in-wall installation, the driver projects sound without the assistance of an enclosure or, if you will, using the ceiling or wall space as the "enclosure". This space is obviously not carefully designed and matched to the speakers' capabilities.

    These metal back cans are designed specifically for use with the 8-inch Carbon Fiber 2-way In-Ceiling Speaker with Magnetic Grille (13683). They are easily installed on the speaker and include a mounting bracket for use with drywall or drop ceiling installations. A safety hook allows you to attach a tether to a secure point, which will prevent the speaker from falling to the ground in the event of a ceiling surface or speaker mounting tab failure.

    Best of all, you will get improved sound quality and volume, especially in the bass frequency ranges.


     
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    Is there an install guide for this metal backs? Will these prevent blown insulation from getting into the Alpha ceiling speakers? (I read that one idea is to insert a square of fiberglass insulation batting into the attic, before inserting a ceiling speaker.)
    Tristan R on Feb 27, 2017
    Metal Back Can for 8-inch Ceiling Speaker with Brackets (pair)
    Metal Back Can for 8-inch Ceiling Speaker with Brackets (pair)
    Alpha Ceiling Speakers 8-Inch Carbon Fiber 2-way (pair)
    Alpha Ceiling Speakers 8-Inch Carbon Fiber 2-way (pair)
    What are the internal dimensions of the back enclosure (e.g. the size allowed for the speaker)?
    Tim P on Jan 19, 2017
    BEST ANSWER: Thank you for your question. Unfortunately, we would not have the dimensions available on the back enclosure. The back enclosure is designed specifically for use with our 8-inch Carbon Fiber 2-way In-Ceiling Speaker with Magnetic Grille (13683). I apologize for any inconvenience.
    why do the wires look tiny? should the be at least 14awg like the speakers say is recommended?
    jonathan r on Mar 20, 2017
    Metal Back Can for 8-inch Ceiling Speaker with Brackets (pair)
    Metal Back Can for 8-inch Ceiling Speaker with Brackets (pair)
    Alpha Ceiling Speakers 8-Inch Carbon Fiber 2-way (pair)
    Alpha Ceiling Speakers 8-Inch Carbon Fiber 2-way (pair)
    BEST ANSWER: Thank you for your question. When it comes to speaker wire there are many different opinions on which gauge of speaker wire to use. We have a guide in choosing which gauge to use for various lengths:

    http://support.monoprice.com/link/portal/41053/41056/Article/294/What-gauge-of-speaker-wire-should-I-get

    Although we do not have information on the gauge of the wire in the metal can, the short run from the back of the can to the speaker would not cause issues. I hope this helps.
    Should the "vent" cover on the 8" Alpha speaker be removed when installing the back can? Should I also add damping material?
    Brian H on Feb 16, 2017
    Metal Back Can for 8-inch Ceiling Speaker with Brackets (pair)
    Metal Back Can for 8-inch Ceiling Speaker with Brackets (pair)
    Alpha Ceiling Speakers 8-Inch Carbon Fiber 2-way (pair)
    Alpha Ceiling Speakers 8-Inch Carbon Fiber 2-way (pair)
    BEST ANSWER: You should not need to remove the speaker cover when you're installing the back can. That being said, there is also no reason why you should leave it on either.
    The cans came to me with a small amount of damping material. Feel free to add more, but I think you'd find you didn't need to.
    Is there a back enclosure that would work with these speakers? I prefer the magnetic grill of the black back version vs the PID 4104 version. I also prefer the lower frequency response compared to the Alpha series for this particular location, otherwise I'd just get the Alpha series since there is a back enclosure kit for that model.
    Tim P on Jan 19, 2017
    Metal Back Can for 8-inch Ceiling Speaker with Brackets (pair)
    Metal Back Can for 8-inch Ceiling Speaker with Brackets (pair)
    ABS Back Enclosure (Pair) for PID 4104 , 8" Ceiling Speaker
    ABS Back Enclosure (Pair) for PID 4104 , 8" Ceiling Speaker
    Black Back Ceiling Speakers 6.5-inch Fiber 2-Way with Covered Crossover (pair)
    Black Back Ceiling Speakers 6.5-inch Fiber 2-Way with Covered Crossover (pair)
    BEST ANSWER: Standard speaker measurements can show frequency response as -3db and -10db. At one point we wanted to show the conservative number as -3db, 70Hz. Since almost all of our competitors use the better looking -10db, 50Hz, our team decided to use the 50Hz on the graphic. My -10db rating was still in the text. Both the Black Back and Alpha 8" ceiling speakers have the same low frequency range of 50Hz @ -3db and 7-Hz @ -10db. The Alpha series with the backcan will give you the performance you need with the more stylish magnetic grill. Thank you for bringing this issue up, we will correct the description so no one else is confused.
    Is there an installation guide? If so, can I please have the pdf before purchasing?
    Paul D on Jun 19, 2017
    BEST ANSWER: Not really any instructions. Had to figure it out on our own. Not too tricky but speaker instructions say to use a neutral pH acrylic glue which I could not find. Speaker fit perfectly and am happy with my purchase. The speaker wire connection on underside pops off, which makes it much easier to connect to.. I bought special ductwork tape to wrap metal box and added acoustic foam at the inside bottom of box. The vents on the speakers are glued on so the screws that are visible do not remove the vent cover.. The brackets work good and are easy to install prior to drywall installation. I have not hooked them to a system yet so cannot comment on sound.
    3.0 / 5.0
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    Great build quality, but with one substantial disappointment...
    Overall the quality of these cans & brackets are of higher quality than I expected. They're very well-built and do exactly what they're supposed to do. The enclosure is rigid and smooth and the brackets are VERY strong (I'm 185 lbs. and could probably hang from them!). Unless you're using the in-ceiling speakers these are intended to be paired with for very light listening/use (essentially very low-volume), you should absolutely buy a set of these. They'll save you a lot of time from having to construct enclosures in the ceiling behind the speakers themselves.

    PROS: - Great build quality
    - Built-to-spec for the speakers they're intended for
    - EXTREMELY strong brackets

    CONS: NOTE: Ultimately these are the reasons for a '3' rating

    - Although the speakers are intended to accept up-to 14 AWG cable, the cans have a jumper from from their terminal block to the speaker that uses 18 or 20 AWG cable and it's soldiered to the block! I'm going to de-soldier and replace with 14 AWG since my receiver is almost 50' away from the speakers themselves.
    - This may be better suited as a "Con" for the speaker, but there is a removable sealed port on the speaker that should probably be removed when used in conjunction with these cans however, it doesn't state anywhere in the instructions (for the speakers or the cans) when or for what reason to remove this port.
    = The cans are constructed of metal! Realistically, plastic or composite is a far better material to build a speaker component like this. It is very likely that IF the aforementioned port is removed, harmonics from the metal can will be audible at higher volumes.
    August 31, 2016
    Acceptable, but annoying to work with
    Three things left me less than completely happy about these cans.

    1. The installation instructions are kind of silly. They are literally to superglue the can to the speaker. Other Monoprice speaker/can combinations actually screw in. This strikes me as a little lazy.

    2. These are kind of a pain to install. While they "fit" the speaker, in my experience, half of the units were a little bent/warped so they didn't "just fit." I had to push and bend the metal around to get it to the right angles to fit correctly on the speaker. Not a huge problem, but it does slow down the install. Of course, because these are metal, you also have the speaker's magnet fighting with you the whole time, trying to pull the can to itself. More of an annoyance than a problem.

    3. As other reviews have mentioned, the jumper cable from the block to the speaker is quite thin. I choose to believe this is ok, because if you look at the speaker post-PCB, you will see a similar gauge wire for all the internal connections. That said, in a perfect world, I think there would be a heavier gauge wire here.

    In the end, they work. They will keep stuff out of the back of your speaker, and don't appear to change the sound at all. But they're not as high quality as other cans for other Monoprice speakers. Still, if you have these speakers going into the ceiling, you should probably buy them.
    June 19, 2017

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